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Dougie's Monday mailbag
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Can Shane Mosley beat Manny Pacquiao? Most fans are skeptical. Fans also discuss Nonito Donaire's past, the Top Rank/Showtime/CBS deal, and boxing on HBO and network TV.
WE COULD HAVE A FIGHT ON MAY 7
Shane Mosley is quicker than Joshua Clottey, Miguel Cotto and Antonio Margarito and if he can strike more with his left and guard his right he might be able to put up a fight. -- Tony
Molsey is indeed quicker than Clottey, Cotto and Margarito, all of whom were able to “reach out and touch” Manny Pacquiao -- and actually do some physical damage -- during their one-sided losses to the Filipino superstar.
I’m sure many hardcore heads are wondering if quicker mitts mean that Mosley will be able to “put hands” on Pacquiao more than recent opposition has.
However, the question that should be on every fan’s mind is not how quick Mosley is, but rather how quick on the trigger is the 39-year-old veteran.
Reflexes are usually more important than raw hand or foot speed in a boxing match. Does anyone deny that Pacquiao has superlative reflexes or that Mosley’s ability to immediately react to ring-combat situations has clearly diminished in recent years?
Quick hands aren’t much good if the fighter can’t let them go in time to take advantage of openings.
Doug E. Fisch,
Aren't folks going a little overboard on reading HBO their last rites? I fully appreciate that losing the Pacquiao-Molsey fight was a big blow to the network and that they could have handled it better. But people are forgetting a few things:
1) The Arum/Pacquiao-CBS/Showtime marriage isn't guaranteed to be a successful one.
2) Even if it is, Pacquiao has indicated that he may not have many fights left. And if Pacquiao-Mayweather never gets made (looking more and more likely each day) there will still be a void there from a historical perspective. And who will they have to pick up the mantle when Pac's done?
3) HBO had Bradley-Alexander last month, Donaire-Montiel this month, and Martinez-Dzinziruk next month. Three of the most significant fights you can make in the sport in back-to-back-to-back months.
And point three above leads me to another overblown HBO beef... Of those six fighters, none are promoted by GBP. So where is the supposed favoritism? Thanks, dude. -- Tom E., Lambertville, NJ
Thanks for your opinions, Tom. I’ll reply to your points in order:
1. This is true. There‘s no guarantee that casual fans will get exited enough about Pacquiao-Mosley to order the PPV show just because they see the fighters on commercial television. However, I hope the “marriage” is successful. Although I’m not that into the Pacquiao-Mosley matchup, I am high on the idea of seeing a major boxing event marketed to a mass audience on a major terrestrial network. The hope, of course, is that if the Top Rank/Showtime/CBS “marriage” is successful (i.e., the Pacquiao-Mosley PPV event does crazy numbers) the networks (Showtime and CBS) will be willing to do more cross-marketing with other big fights, perhaps even for the occasional hardcore fan matchup.
By the way, in a blatant attempt to dissuade message board trolls from accusing RingTV.com of HBO/Golden Boy Promotions favoritism, here’s the Showtime/CBS schedule for FIGHT CAMP 360: Pacquiao vs. Mosley series:
Episode 1 (CBS) - Saturday, April 2 at 12 p.m. ET/9 a.m. PT
Episode 1 (SHO) - Saturday, April 16 at 10 p.m. ET/PT
Episode 2 (SHO) - Saturday, April 23 at 10 p.m. ET/PT
Episode 3 (CBS) - Saturday, April 30 at 8 p.m. ET/PT
Episode 4 (SHO) - Friday, May 6 at 10 p.m. ET/PT
Episode 4 (CBS) - Saturday, May 7 at 2 p.m. ET/11 a.m. PT
2. If Pacquiao only fights two or three more times before retiring (and it’s a fair guess that he won’t be getting it on with Mayweather -- no matter what Arum tells the Filipino media), Showtime still stands to profit mightily from the superstar’s presence on their network. Who in Arum’s stable will replace the Pac-monster as a “Showtime PPV seller” when Manny finally retires? Maybe Nonito Donaire (provided he beats Fernando Montiel this Saturday and continues to win). Maybe JuanMa Lopez (provided he beats Orlando Salido in April and he wins an eventual showdown with Yuriorkis Gamboa). We’ll just have to wait and see.
3. That’s a good point, Tom. HBO’s providing quality (at least on paper) boxing programming so far this year, with or without GBP. And the shows with GBP (such as the March 5 B.A.D. card headlined by Saul Alvarez and the Hopkins-Pascal rematch with Chad Dawson in the co-feature in May) are quality, too.
I think Arum’s stronger alliance with Showtime will only improve the network’s boxing programming, while forcing HBO to step up its standards. Fight fans will benefit from better quality fights on both premium cable networks.
COUPLE OF POINTS
I really enjoy reading your weekly mailbag. Checking ringtv.com is always included in my daily routine. Nice job guys. This is my first time to send you an e-mail and I just want to know your thoughts about some points.
1. Nonito Donaire Jr. was told by his mom, "stop spreading lies". I know you already read the news about that. Donaire is loved by boxing fans because of his tenacity in the ring while maintaining his charming personality outside the ring. But spreading lies that he grew up poor without nothing to eat, just to be like Pacman, man, that's ridiculous. We still don't know the truth but I want to know your comments about that.
2. Pacquaio says he will fight twice a year until he retires in 2013. That would mean six more fights starting with the bout with Mosley. Who do you want Pacquiao to fight with on his last five matches? Anyway, if Mayweather-Pacquiao eventually fight on late 2013, what would be the age implications of the bout giving that Manny will be 34 (35 on Dec. 17) and Floyd will be 36?
3. Floyd will soon face the court. If the court finds him not guilty, and Mayweather decides to continue his career while going in different directions with Pacquiao, who do you want Mayweather to fight with on his remaining boxing years?
Thanks. -- Cherenzkie, Philippines
Thanks for finally writing in Cherenzkie. Don’t be a stranger now that you’ve broken the ice. I’ll answer your points in order:
1. I haven’t paid much attention to things Donaire has said about his youth or statements that his father and former trainer has made since the two split up. I know father-son relationships can be pretty volatile, especially in boxing. Regarding Donaire’s claims that he grew up in poverty, I take it with a grain of salt, just as I do when I hear African-American fighters who are clearly middle class -- such as Timothy Bradley and Allan Green -- talk about how they grew up in a “ghetto area/the hood” around a lot of crime, drugs and gangs. That’s just part of the Hip-Hop generation. Everybody wants to be either hardcore from the streets or someone who overcame the “thug life”/poverty/oppression. I totally understand why young folks do it. They get more attention/sympathy with that story than if they told the truth. The general public doesn’t get attached to nice guys who have led decent lives. Nobody wants to hear about a well-adjusted young man from a loving family who did well in school and sports. Look at Shane Mosley, someone from my generation. He’s middle class all the way and he never tried to hide it or make up some kind of hardcore gangster/ghetto past. And you know what? He’s never had a dedicated following. Anyway, Donaire can say whatever he wants about his past; it’s his life. I’m glad it’s not just young African-American fighters who feel the need to, ahem, "embellish" their life stories.
2. Provided he handles Mosley as easily as the odds makers and most pundits believe, I’d like to see Pacquiao face Mayweather, the winner of Berto-Ortiz, Marcos Maidana (if the Argentine slugger beats El Terrible in April), Saul Alvarez at 147 pounds (provided the kid continues to wins in impressive fashion and perhaps earns a major belt or two), and either Juan Manuel Marquez or the Khan-Bradley winner (but only if these bouts are contested at 140 pounds).
3. The Khan-Bradley winner (if that fight takes place) at 147 pounds, Alfredo Angulo (or James Kirkland if “Perro” can’t get a visa to come to the States) at 154 pounds, the Martinez-Dzinziruk winner at junior middleweight (or at some kind of catchweight between 155-160 if