Middleweight beltholder Peter Quillin could soon defend his WBO title against promotional stablemate Danny Jacobs.
Dougie's Friday mailbag
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Has Ali (through a spokesman, of course) made any statement about Frazier's death?
On to happier issues: Is Marquez out of his mind? $25 million for a Pac rematch? Pac has to admit that Marquez beat him? The WBO has to declare the fight a no-contest? Beristain will sue the judges? Marquez wants the fight in Mexico?
Sorry, but Vegas (location of their first three fights) is a lot closer to Mexico than Manilla. If Marquez wants to claim he won, that's one thing. But these absurd "demands" make Marquez and Beristain look foolish. Maybe Marquez should have thrown more punches in the last round--and some of the other rounds.
(P.S. Is Beristain also going to sue boxing experts like you, Kellerman, Kevin Iole, Dan Rafael, Tim Dahlberg, Harold Lederman, Cliff Rold, Graham Houston, Bob Papa and Jim Lampley, just to name some, who scored the fight either for Pacquiao or as a draw?
P.P.S. Would the idiotic Pacquiao diehards stop with the "Marquez on steroids" crap? The guy deserves credit for a hell of a performance, even though I scored Pacquiao a 115-113 winner.)
Take care. -- Patrick
Marquez is on two performance enhancers: heart and skill.
I‘ve already learned that “experts” who scored the fight a draw will not be sued by Senor Beristain. (We will, however, receive a “cease and desist” letter from his attorney forbidding us from scoring anymore major fights going forward, which is probably for the best.)
I don’t take the demands and threats of Marquez or Bersitain seriously. They’re rightfully frustrated with what they view as an unfair system. And I think asking $25 million for a fourth fight and demanding that it take place in Mexico is their way of saying they really aren’t interested in doing it again with Pacquiao.
I’m glad they’re taking a hard stance. For starters, I think Marquez SHOULD get close to purse parity with Pacquiao in a fourth fight. He’s earned it with the efforts he put forth in the first three bouts, which will sell bout No. 4. And if Arum wants to use a fourth fight to avoid making Mayweather-Pacquiao he should have to come out of the pocket bigtime to do so.
Ali was among the first to issue a public statement when it was learned that Frazier was sick and in a hospice and when the man who helped define his boxing career passed away.
GOOD FOR BOXING
Hey Dougie, what's good?
After you get past all the controversy of last weekend, you'll realize it was actually a win for boxing. I have a fight party every big fight, but my apartment only gets packed when it's a big PPV event, and as every boxing fan knows they usually let us down, but this fight had the buzz and excitement of a super bowl party that didn't fizzle out due to a boring main event. The closing bell didn't quell the excitement, and the next day at work everyone was talking about it. I don't think I've ever seen more boxing talk on ESPN (never mind they don't know what they're talking bout) then I have this past week.
True a lot of the post-fight hype was due to the controversial decision, but it wasn't the same as the last 2 PPV's that were mostly stinkers before ending strangely. It seemed casual fans enjoyed the night of boxing and how often can you say that? I also wanted to disagree with one of your readers that wrote in regarding the Mexicutioner nickname. I actually think it's a sign of respect, I mean, nobody brags about how many Canadian fighters they beat. I think it's clear that Mexico is to boxing as the US is to basketball, the cream of the crop, and when you have a record like Pacquiao does against Mexicans it's something to brag about. -- Amp in Florida
Interesting point about the “Mexicutioner” moniker. Still, if it offends Mexican fans and fighters, or even if it just makes Pacquiao uncomfortable, we should drop it. There’s nothing wrong with “PacMan.” It’s catchy.
Good point about the Pacquiao-Marquez fight delivering some entertainment. It wasn’t nearly as good as the first two fights, but it was competitive and compelling for 12 rounds. It gave Marquez (and Mayweather) fans something to cheer about (and then bitch about). And it put Pacquiao fans on the edge of their seats (probably gave some of them ulcers).
BOB NEEDS TO MAKE THE FIGHT
I emailed you a couple weeks ago but you never got back to me. No worries I know you're a busy man. I had the fight over my house Saturday night and was drinking so I wasn't really focused (I had the DVR on so I would knew I would see it again clearly). I read the different boxing websites and saw that people were saying Marquez got robbed, etc. I talked to my brother who like I loves boxing (and he is a Mayweather guy, not me) and he had it 7-5 for Marquez. I finally watched the fight again yesterday and I thought it looked just like the first two fights. I thought Manny won the early rounds, Marquez won the middle rounds and Manny won the last 3 rounds. To me Marquez landed the crisper punches but Pacquaio was clearly the aggressor and threw and landed more punches. If they fight 10 more times it would be the same fight every time. Marquez should blame himself and his corner for not being more aggressive. If I was judge I would score it for Pacquaio because of his aggression. I don't want to see them fight again it would be like groundhog day.
I still want to see him fight Floyd. Although Floyd is a counter puncher, he doesn't even throw as many punches as Marquez. Plus Floyd has never fought anyone who has the speed and angles that Pacquaio has. I watched the Judah fight and the Ortiz fight again. I thought Victor landed some shots and was in the fight. Judah was schooling Floyd until he ran out of gas. Pacquaio won't run out of gas. I still believe that if an OLD Shane Mosley can catch and hurt Floyd than Pacquaio can do the same. I tell my brother all the time if Floyd is so great and doesn't want to be accused of fighting little guys why doesn't he move up to 154? Kirkland is waiting for him and I'm sure Martinez would drop back to 154 along with Paul Williams.
Bottom line is Bob Arum needs to make the fight. They talked a lot of s__t on Floyd leading up to Saturday night and Pacman didn't have his best night and all of sudden they have nothing to say. Both sides are ridiculous! If you want the money make the fight and if not go fight other people and stop mentioning it and save all of us time. I grew up in the ‘80s so I remember all the big fights since Leonard-Hearns ‘81. The build up to this fight is starting to lose momentum. I refuse to talk about it until I see them @ an official press conference. And I'm leaving the boxing websites alone that keep talking about it. Let's talk about real fights.
Last thing I can't stand Tim Bradley! He doesn't impress me and I wish he would fight Amir Khan so Kahn can school his lame ass! I want Cotto to beat Margarito worse than Pacquaio did! I AM NOT buying anymore boxing PPV's unless it's the big one. I've been a lifelong boxing fan but I feel myself leaving the sport. I wanted to leave after the Whittaker-Chavez robbery but got sucked back in. This Pacquaio-Mayweather talk is like the old Hogan-Flair wrestling talk in the 80's. Thanks for reading... Maybe you can talk me off the ledge!! LOL. -- Austin
Flair and Hogan were a lot more entertaining with their posturing than Team Mayweather and Team Pacquiao are. I agree with you, the fight is losing momentum. I think mid-to-late 2010 was the optimum time for the “super fight” to happen. All Pacquiao, Mayweather and their advisers/promoters have done since then is milk the public (both hardcore and casual fans) with pay-per-view “events” against other fighters. People are getting sick of it.
And I’m glad to hear that even longtime hardcore heads like you refuse to talk about or debate the fight until it’s actually made. If Arum is truly the one who is keeping the fight from happening he needs to stop the nonsense. Pacquiao can’t go on forever. Sooner or later he’s going to slowdown enough for someone, oh say maybe Tim Bradley, to catch him and beat him. If the Filipino hero is going to lose, it should be in a monster fight for a monster payday. That’s Floyd (and I still think he can beat Mayweather, but not if his speed wanes and his punch output drops). The little hurricane that got in Clottey’s ass with 100 punches per round for 12 rounds is the version I see beating Mayweather. But he hasn’t appeared that active or relentless in subsequent fights. Bob could be running out Pacquiao’s window of having a decided edge against Mayweather. Maybe that window is already closed and Bob knows it.
If Mayweather-Pacquiao doesn’t happen, I’d love to see Floyd challenge a top 154 pounder. Instead, we’ll probably see him in with a 140-pound titleholder, Amir Khan. Come to think of it, we’ll probably see Pacquiao fight a jr. welter beltholder, Bradley. If the sport’s two superstars do indeed fight Khan and Bradley, maybe they’ll get what they deserve and be upset by the 140 pounders, who will then face each other.
It can happen. Wait until the end of 2012 before jumping off that ledge.