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Readers give their thoughts on this weekend's fights involving Nonito Donaire, Wladimir Klitschko, Kelly Pavlik and Vanes Martirosyan, as well as Roy Jones Jr., THE RING ratings, and much more in this week's Friday mailbag. Enjoy!
THIS WEEKEND: MORE RECORD PADDING
I mean look at Vanes Martirosyan vs Ryan Davis... you have a 6-foot light middleweight with a record of 32-0 fighting some poor 5-foot-6 bum who has lost or drawn in 33% of his fights, you have little bro Klitschko beating the snot out of Tony Tompson... again. You have Kelly Pavlik in against another bum. For a guy trying to resurrect his career why not put him in with someone like Arthur Abraham? That way both guys get another shot of showing they have it without the need for padding. I even get the impression that Nonito Donaire is going to give is going to give Jeffrey Mathebula a good spanking. Looking at Mathebula’s record, he seems to have never fought outside South Africa except for his defeat to Celestino Caballero. If you look at his opposition he only really fought two guys of note – Caballero and an aging Ndlovu (who it took two go's and a split decision to beat). I see Donaire winning by a very wide unanimous decision.
I favor Martirosyan, Klitschko, Pavlik and Donaire to win on Saturday, but the only fighter I believe is in “easy” is Martirosyan.
Davis is not a “bum,” by the way. I’ve met him (very nice guy) and I’ve followed much of his career (up until his fight with Zab Judah, who he rocked en route to a 12-round decision loss in 2007). He’s a tough Missourian who knows how to fight, but he’s limited in terms of power and athleticism and he’s clearly fought way past the point at which he should have called it a career.
I know if Martirosyan had his way he’d be fighting a top-10 contender on HBO’s broadcast instead of a journeyman off-TV, but it’s up to his management and his promoter (Bob Arum) to make those meaningful fights. Hopefully, everyone involved can come to terms to make the WBC 154-pound title-elimination bout between Martirosyan and Erislandy Lara before the end of the year.
Klitschko, Pavlik and Donaire are all in tough fights in my opinion. They are in with rugged opponents who are also good boxers. Thompson and Mathebula are RING-ranked fighters and for good reason. They are smart, durable and experienced veterans, which = dangerous.
Thompson has earned his No. 10 ranking with the body of work he compiled in the eight years it took him to get his first title shot and the five consecutive stoppages he’s scored since losing to Klitschko, who had to box one of the best fights of his career (IMO) in order to score an 11th-round KO in 2008.
Mathebula, the IBF titleholder, is our No. 6-rated junior featherweight. We rate the near-6-foot South African ahead of popular unbeaten WBC beltholder Abner Mares (No. 7) because he’s the more proven fighter at 122 pounds.
Just because the only names you recognize on his record are Caballero and Ndlovu doesn’t mean the other guys he’s fought were bums. On the contrary, junior featherweight is a VERY competitive division in South Africa. Mathebula had to fight many rough, tough customers – such as countrymen Oscar Chauke and Bonai Hlwatika and Ghana’s Osumanu Akaba – to climb his way into the world ratings.
Yes, he’s had setbacks, such as his lone stoppage to Thomas Mashaba (in his 15th pro bout), a six-round draw with future 130-pound beltholder Malcolm Klassen and the close losses to Caballero and Ndlovu, but those guys were all world class. So was former bantie beltholder Julio Zarate, who he outpointed in ’08.
Mathebula is battle tested and ready for Donaire. I like Donaire by decision (I think he’ll stick, move and pot-shot the beanstalk all night), but I’ll be surprised (and very impressed) if he beats the South African easily.
Pavlik’s opponent, Will Rosinsky, isn’t word class or as experienced as Thompson and Mathebula but he’s a natural light heavyweight who knows how to use his short, stocky frame to his advantage. I thought Rosinsky gave Edwin Rodriguez, who might be better suited at 168 pounds than Pavlik, all he could handle during their controversial 10-rounder last year. Rosinky was also able to handle the ridiculous range and height of 6-foot-4 Aaron Pryor just three and a half weeks ago, so he obviously knows how to fight tall, lanky fighters.
Again, I like the favorites in these bouts – Klitschko, Donaire and Pavlik – but I think they’re going to have to earn their victories.
ROY JONES JR. VS. PAWEL GLAZEWSKI
Hey, one question, why there was no news about this fun fight? : ) – Mark
Because it wasn’t a fun fight. There’s nothing fun, funny or newsworthy about Roy Jones continuing his career.
I didn’t tell the RingTV.com staff writers NOT to write anything on Jones fighting Pawell Glazewski, but I didn’t assign anyone either. Why? A) the “Glaz-Man” ain’t s__t (prior to fighting Jones the most notable guy on his record was a brotha from the Congo named “Doo Doo” – and it looks like he was lucky to win that fight, too!), and B) how many times can we write the same pre- or post-fight column on how “sad” it is that “the once-unbeatable-ultra-talented-superman Jones is still fighting”?
We did that story before AND after his last four fights (vs. Danny Green, Bernard Hopkins, Denis Lebedev and Max Alexander). Honestly, at this point, we could just take one of those old columns and change the name of the opponent. But if we did that, we’d be guilty of what Jones has been doing for at least the last four years – fakin’ it.
JONES IS COMPLETELY DONE
Since the Tarver KO, RJJ has perfected the art of fighting without fighting. He does not fight to win, just to be a game loser. He is really disgracing himself, he is getting beaten up and KTFO by never were’s and never will be’s. I saw the video stream from Poland and he was fighting, off TV, in Poland, to an empty crowd!!! Now how is that for the greatest ego of our time? Could any of us have imagined Reluctant Roy, fighting on a DECADE PAST his best days and getting KTFO so repeatedly and brutally, we pretty much expected the result.
People – whether a fan, hater, etc. – were in utter SHOCK when RJJ was KTFO by Tarver and the words can’t even describe the Johnson KO. Nobody thought those results were possible. Years later, after countless losses and brutal KO’s Jones fights on, off TV, in empty arena’s for what I guess to be little money… His results aren’t even covered anymore. At this rate, HBO might drop him as a broadcaster, because he is just getting bounced off the mat like a basketball. The allure of that seat on the show is that of a great fighter and expert, but the luster will certainly be off that seat when he is getting f__ked up every other weekend in high school gymnasiums.
I can only guess he wants to go out on a high note, they all do, but it is clearly not there for him. He has tried at every weight division. This weekend, he created a new one, the 183-pound weight class and still failed. While he may have gotten the decision, he didn’t do a damn thing, but pick up, what I guess is a much needed paycheck, the only way he knows how. I guess this is more of a sad commentary, than question… Your thoughts, if any? – JCB
I ran out of thoughts on Jones a couple years ago (the Hopkins rematch was the last straw for yours truly). I don’t really have anything to say about his recent fight other than I haven’t seen it and I don’t plan to. What’s the point?
I’ll say this: I like Jones. (I’m even one of those screwy individuals who enjoys his commentary on HBO.) I’m not going to write anything about him if he continues to fight, but I will pray for him going forward because I really dread one day hearing about him getting seriously hurt.
I’ll also say this: I miss the prime Roy Jones. I was huge fan of his (from the ’88 Olympic Games until he moved to the light heavyweight division in late ’96) who became a harsh critic (some say “hater”) who also got to cover him during the last decade (including his career-highlight decision over John Ruiz and his KO loss to Tarver – and you better believe I was in shock just like everybody else in the Mandalay Bay’s Event Center).
I even miss battling it out with his die-hard fans every week in these mail bags during the early years of MaxBoxing.com.
HAYE VS. CHISORA
As a 25 year old who has been a boxing fan since the mid 90's, I came of age in an era without much intrigue in the heavyweight division. The upcoming fight between David Haye and Dereck Chisora is really the only fight I can remember actually looking forward to in that weight class.
However, I almost feel guilty for my interest given the circumstances surrounding the bout. It's almost a guilty pleasure, like a reality TV program featuring wives of rich people throwing drinks at each other. What is your take on the scrap? It's sad that such carnival of a promotion is the only heavyweight fight with any real interest to me since Mike Tyson vs Lennox Lewis, but hey I guess we should take what we can get at this point, right? Thank you. – Byron, Columbia, Mo.
I like the Haye-Chisora fight. Haye is a big puncher who is smarter and more athletic than Chisora, but “Del Boy” has an iron jaw, is naturally bigger and has a pressure fighter style. It should be a fun scrap.
Don’t feel guilty about wanting to watch it just because Chisora is a bit of a nut and the British Boxing Board of Control revoked his license.
Del Boy is a bad boy, but he’s not THAT bad (not by boxing standards, anyway). Tyson was much worse. Chisora bit a guy during a fight, but he didn’t chomp a piece of the dude’s ear off like our recent hall of fame inductee. Chisora attacked Haye at a press conference, but he didn’t bite the Hayemaker’s thigh and then threaten to f__k nearby boxing writers “until they loved” him, like our dear Michael Gerard did during the Lewis presser. Chisora was found guilty of assaulting his girlfriend in 2010 and almost did some time for it. Tyson was found guilty of rape and did nearly four years in prison.
Did you feel guilty watching Tyson fight all those guys he fought after he got out of the pen (from Peter McNeely to Lewis)? I bet you didn’t (and if you did, you obviously got over it – LOL).
Check your conscience at the door and enjoy the British showdown next Saturday. Unlike those Tyson fights, Haye-Chisora will likely be a competitive scrap.