Doug Fischer

Dougie’s Friday mailbag

ISHIDA & THE MEGA BOUTS

I liked your article on Nobuhiro Ishida. I wasn’t planning on watching the fight but you kinda sparked my interest in it. I hope Ishida kicks Paul Williams’ a__!!! So what’s good Dougie? I haven’t wrote you in a while (haven’t really been watching boxing lately). I just had to drop by and leave my 2 cents on the mega bouts between Mayweather/Cotto and Pacquiao/Bradley.

First off Top Rank better get a good undercard together if they wish to compete with Golden Boy! Alvarez vs Mosley on the undercard!! Wow, impressive. I’m going on record by saying that if Pacquiao performs against Bradley like how he did against Marquez, Bradley will own this fight! But in all honesty I think this fight will be a stinker. Bradley is an awesome fighter but horrendously boring even for the most deeply rooted fans of boxing. But I could be wrong.

Mayweather vs Cotto on the other hand will be very interesting. Cotto has been very mobile his last 2 fights and Mayweather hasn’t been looking as mobile as he used to be. PBF is coming up in weight, which makes it more interesting. I love the energy from this fight I can feel that this fight will be a classic. I would love to see Cotto win this fight. I think if he does he could be labeled “one of the all-time greats.” Is it too premature to think that? Interested in what you think. Take it easy, Dougie. – Roland, Tampa

It’s a bit premature. Cotto’s hasn’t been in the pro game as long as Mayweather, who won his first major title (the WBC 130-pound belt) two years before the Puerto Rican turned pro. However, a victory over Mayweather would make him a lock for the hall of fame and instantly make him one of the top three or four Puerto Rican boxers of all time. (Beating the undefeated American would rank right up there with Wilfredo Gomez’s fifth-round stoppage of Carlos Zarate, Wilfred Benitez’s decision over Antonio Cervantes, and Felix Trinidad’s close nod over Oscar De La Hoya).

I’m with you, Roland. I’m more excited about Cotto-Mayweather than I am for Pacquiao-Bradley. I’m not as excited about the Saul Alvarez-Shane Mosley fight, but unlike most of my peers and a seeming legion of hardcore fans, I don’t viewthe fight as a horrible mismatch. I know Shane looked like dried up dog doo doo against Pacquiao, but I think people are forgetting that Alvarez is only 21. We’re talking about a kid who couldn’t put Matthew Hatton away and lost rounds to Alfonzo Gomez last year. I’m sorry folks, call me a Golden Boy shill all you want, but I’m not ready to count Mosley out of this fight. (Besides, I think they’ll put on a good show.)

I’m pretty sure Pacquiao-Bradley will be awkward and ugly at times, but I don’t believe that it will be a total stinkfest. Pacquiao had a lot of pride. He has to make amends to his fans for underperforming against his arch rival in his last fight. I think he’s going to try and make a statement against the young, undefeated American. And though Bradley has a quirky style (which will probably trouble Pac), he’s also got a ton of heart. If someone tries to take him out, he’s going to fight back, so I’m expecting pockets of intense action during various parts of the fight.

I’m glad you liked the article on Ishida. He’s so quiet, shy and humble, it’s hard for me to believe that his willing to hit another man with a gloved fist. But then I watch the Kirkland fight again and some sparring footage of him with Canelo, and I’m reminded that he’s a tough eteran. I like Williams in this fight but I think the towering southpaw will once again have his busy hands full.

CHISORA’S CHANCES, P-WILL & EUBANK JR.

Hey Dougie,

Big fan of your work and style, I’m a relatively new fan of the sport (following “hardcore” for about 2-3 years now), but I’m always reading your Gym Notes and these mailbags to get a better insight into the Sweet Science, so keep up the good work!

Couple of questions/comments about this upcoming weekend of fights:

1. I personally rate Vitali Klitschko as a boxer who’s damn near unbeatable; a diamond-chinned giant who’s got his technique and mental approach to the sport perfected. (I don’t think he’s lost a round since coming out of “retirement.”) With that in mind, does Dereck Chisora really stand any chance of defeating him? If so, in what scenario do you see it happening? I’d love to see “Del Boy” make a real wild scrap of it, but to me that only ends with Vitali wiping pieces of Chisora’s face off of his gloves.

2. Paul Williams has been showered with a lot of crap after his two most recent performances against Sergio Martinez and Erislandy Lara (ridiculous robbery). Despite that, surely he’s still got the goods to defeat Ishida handily, who IMO got lucky against a weak and completely unprepared Kirkland. I love me a Rocky story, but I can’t see Ishida taking this one from Paul, who seemingly has something to prove since the Lara controversy.

3. Chris Eubank Jr. is fighting his second fight too, I know he’s still only against bums at this very early stage in his career, but I wondered if you had any insight on his skill/technique so far. I heard he had been training hard in the US as an amateur, and that he’s considered a good prospect. It would be interesting to see if he can live up to his old man’s standards (if not his eccentricities).

Thanks for your time buddy! – Al, England

Thank you for all of your kind words, Al. I’ll respond to your questions/comments in order:

1. V-Klitsch is damn near unbeatable, but the man’s gotta get old sooner or later. I don’t fault Chisora for believing he can pull off the upset and I think he’ll give it the ole college try, but as Lennox Lewis recently tweeted, the British upstart is not experienced enough to challenge a veteran titleholder of Klitschko’s class. It’s one thing to go the distance with Tyson Fury and Robert Helenius, it’s quite another to share the ring with Dr. Iron Fist. I like Klitschko by late stoppage. If Chisora tries to take the fight to Big Bro early, I think he’ll get bombed out by the middle rounds.

2. I agree that Williams should be considered a heavy favorite against Ishida. However, we must consider the punishment “The Punisher” has absorbed throughout his career. Those hard-fought 12-round victories against Antonio Margarito and Sergio Martinez were grueling, career shortening affairs. He also ate a lot of hard shots during his 12 rounds with Lara. And that one-hitter quitter from Maravilla probably didn’t do his noggin much good. That grey matter between a fighter’s ears can only get shaken up so much before it begins to affect his legs. Do you know what ringside fans yell out when a tall, lanky fighter like Williams loses his legs? “Timbeeeeeeeer!”

3. I’m often asked about my opinion of Eubank Jr. And to be honest, I really can’t tell anyone what I think yet. I haven’t seen enough of him. And even if I had, it’s too early to tell. He only had 26 amateur bouts and one pro fight. However, I think he’s got tremendous potential. Boxing is obviously in his blood. He inherited some of his old man’s athleticism and he did the smart thing by spending his brief amateur career in Las Vegas where he was able to train under brilliant boxing minds, such as Floyd Mayweather Sr. and Mike McCallum. Eubank Jr. seems very comfortable in the ring, he’s effective boxing from a distance, and he’s got a little bit of his dad’s pizzazz (though, he’s not as unorthodox). I’ll definitely keep my eye on the 22 year old.

RISING HEAVYWEIGHTS

Hey Dougie,
I’m liking the idea of a rising heavyweight night (on HBO or Showtime) and am sure my countymen David Price or Tyson Fury would be able to impress and get more exposure to the U.S. fans. I agree that neither should go anywhere near a Klitschko, but they will be ready to take over when they depart the scene. Tyson has a great name and character but Price is the better boxer and could be a Klitschko-type clone in the future. There is another guy who would be great in the competition, who you may have heard of or not, New Zealand heavyweight champion Sonny Bill Williams. He is inexperienced but is one of the world’s best rugby players (rugby and boxing are my favourite sports) and actually is in great shape unlike many of the doughboys who end up drifting towards the top of the ratings. You should check him out. – Richard Lightfoot, York, UK

I did. I love the name Sonny Boy Williams. It could belong to a Jack Daniel’s-swilling rogue country music star. I’m sure he sells tickets to his fights in New Zealand, and he makes for an interesting story anywhere in the world, but I don’t see a future heavyweight prospect when I watch his fights on YouTube. I see a muscle-bound rugby player in boxing gloves. He ain’t a natural the way Anthony Mundine was when he made the transition from rugby to boxing. Williams is stiff, upright, and that chin is in line for straight rights and counter hooks. He’s got a nice, quick jab, though, I’ll give him that. I wish him luck in his boxing venture.  

WHY THE BIG GUYS SUCK

Hey Doug and fellow fight fans:

With Klitchko-Chisora and Malik Scott’s so-what comeback filling the heavyweight boxing blogs I have my own newsflash to share with you all. The heavyweight division completely sucks! That’s right. Boxing’s so-called glamour division sucks sour, slimey frog-ass. OK, so it’s not much of a newsflash. Everyone knows it. The big question is why the division stinks worse than a smoldering pile of rat-s__t.

Experts have been coming up with various theories over the past few years. Here’s mine. Actually you kind of said it yourself, Doug, when you discussed Scott’s comeback in the Monday mailbag. You mentioned that Scott was and probably still is a highly-skilled, talented boxer who can kick some serious ass if he wanted to and make a real impact. And you’re right. The problem is that Scott always did just enough to win and that was it. Meanwhile, similar fighters with Scott’s talent level were never in it to win it at all. Big, strong, talented fighters that won’t let their hands go never change. As long as they get their big, fat pay checks and that’s it.

Think back throughout the past few years and even the past few decades when we had lazy sloths like Greg Page and Tim Witherspoon, and underachievers like David Tua, Kirk Johnson, and Jameel McCline; and more recently Shannon Briggs and Chris Arreola. Talent-wise these guys weren’t bums at all. They were all highly skilled fighters that could have achieved a whole lot more if they weren’t lazy, passive suck-holes. And yes, most of those guys trained extensively on pork-rinds, Big Macs, and donuts and therefore insulted our intelligence by showing up looking like fat warthogs on growth pills.

I know there’s still some hope for Arreola now that he’s supposedly working out in the gyms as opposed to the grease-food joints and buffets and will be fighting this weekend. But again, lazy lard-laden fighters usually don’t change and I clearly have to see it to believe it.

That now brings us to our esteemed heavyweight champion Wladimir Klitschko who in some ways is the biggest under-achieving doofus of them all when it comes to the ring. Yes Klitschko is champion for a reason. He’s big, multi-talented, ripped to the point where he resembles Arnold Schwarz-a-whatever on steroids, and yes he can probably punch a brick s__t house to pieces. But the guy barely punches at all. Instead he’s content on waltzing like some big, giant sissy in the ring; pawing and patti-caking his way to one meaningless win after another. Not the kind of strategy we want to see from someone huge enough to stomp on his opponents. Where are the Joe Frazier and Rocky Marciano types when we need them? On yeah, that’s right, in the UFC. If only we can get those UFC big men to do some more ass-kicking in our sport as well. Tough guys from the NFL and NHL are always welcome to help pump up our sport’s sagging “glamour” division also. Hey with most boxers averaging 2 fights a year I’m sure they can squeeze in the time to punch out a Klitschko or whatever.

So that’s why the very same division that was once home to such greats like Jack Dempsey, Joe Louis, and Muhammad Ali, now completely sucks s__t. Pardon my political correctness by the way.

Now some predictions for this weekend:

Vitali Klitchko-Dereck Chisora. There’s no question that Big Bro is clearly the better and more forceful Klitchko and there’s no way he loses to some loud-mouth who once lost to Tyson-frigging-Fury. Dr Iron Fist will grind him up by the middle rounds.

Paul Williams-Nobuhiro Ishida. This Japanese bomber blasted out tough-guy James Kirkland and is now coming off two first-round knockouts. Will P-Will get Pearl Harboured as well? Possibly. But it’s more likely that Williams will win the way he usually does it; by blocking dozens of power shots with his face and getting a gift decision from the judges.

Tavoris Cloud-Gabriel Campillo. Probably the best fight of the bunch. Campillo is indeed a tough, wily southpaw who throws all those hundreds of punches like he’s on f__ing speed. Still T-Cloud’s a f__ing monster with anvils for fists. I’m picking his strength and power over Campillo’s speed and volume. Cloud by hard-fought decision in a torrid fight.

Well I better wrap this up quickly Mr. Doug. My wife, kids and cat are now giving me the dreaded “Get off the computer already, a__hole!” look. Enjoy this week-end’s action. It should be good.

Cheers to all us true fight fans. – Todd The Terminator

You have a way with words, Triple T. I laughed out loud a few times while reading your latest email. And I agree with your theory on why the heavyweight division is no longer “glamorous.”

Of course, you could have reduced the word count of your email by about 90 percent by simply stating “Heavyweights these days are a bunch of lazy b__tches.”

They are definitely overpaid and pampered compared to boxers in the lighter weight classes.

Big men such as Page and Witherspoon were indeed talented. Tua, Johnson and Briggs were less so, but good athletes in their primes. I thought McCline was an overachiever. But what they often lacked was the fire and passion that we commonly see in world-class fighters who campaign under the welterweight division.

That’s what Joe Frazier had more than most big men, even during his heyday, which was a Golden Age for the heavyweight division. Tyson had that fire from ’85-’89 and was something to behold. That’s what the division needs in order to rekindle interest among both casual fans and hardcore heads. It needs badasses with a kill-or-be-killed attitude.

I hate to say it, but I don’t see anyone out there who reminds me of Frazier, Rocky Marciano, Jack Dempsey or Tyson. And I don’t see any big men in the UFC, NFL, NHL or rugby leagues who could go more than a few rounds with a world-class heavyweight boxer in a boxing match (no matter how lazy and sissy-fied the boxers may be).

Onto your weekend predictions:

I LOVE the Cloud-Campillo matchup! I’m so glad you mentioned it. (And shame on all these so-called hardcore fans who aren’t buzzing about this light heavyweight fight.) Demented minds must think alike, because I also favor Cloud by a hard-fought decision. I think the undefeated American will get the nod because of his forward aggression and harder punches. However, I won’t be surprised if Campillo wins the bout on my scorecard. I thought he beat both Beibut Shumenov and Karo Murat in those recent rematches. And I believe that his cool ring demeanor, smooth inside defensive moves, and fluid combination punching will give Cloud fits over the second half of the bout.

I also see Williams winning a decision just by swarming the Japanese veteran in every round. Although I like and respect P-Will, it will be hard not to root for Ishida. You know I love underdogs.

No doubt bout Big Bro’s fight. V-Klitsch is an old man but he’s BAD old man.

JOLLY GOOD WRITING

I can’t believe you wrote: “… which is too bad, really,…” in response to the last email in your Monday mailbag.

Who are you? Madonna or Johnny Depp? A UK fight fan writes to you and you respond like you’re Carl Froch? LMAO. – Gerald

I swear on The Boxing Register that was subconscious. All those years of watching Monty Python, Doctor Who, Fawlty Towers and The Goodies on public television during the 1970s sometimes comes back to haunt me.

TROUBLE WITH BOXERS

Mr. Doug,
This is my second time writing in. My first time was when you first started at The Ring. I wanted to follow up with something you said about Mayweather in the Monday mailbag. And I completely agree with you on this one. You stated that “boxers have problems against other boxers, and Mayweather is no exception.”

If you look at all of Mayweather’s fights, who has given him the most trouble? Zab Judah, a FADED Oscar De La Hoya (who I think would beat Mayweather while in his prime), Jose Luis Castillo (who was able to combine boxing with a power game, which is hard to do). These three fighters were great boxers and they all had a punch. In my opinion, that’s what it will take to beat Mayweather, someone who has a decent boxing game and good power.

And I don’t care what anyone says about the Victor Ortiz fight, I personally think Ortiz was getting to Mayweather. I just don’t understand why he did what he did. He landed about 5 or 6 unanswered shots to Mayweathers skull, then BAM! Headbutt. Silly. Ortiz was walking through Mayweather’s shots. He should’ve been more patient. Anyways, glad to see you’re still covering the sport. I’ve been reading you since you were at MaxBoxing, take care. – Patrick from Houston

Thanks for reading my stuff for so long, Patrick.

Most of my peers think Mayweather will handle Cotto, and while I favor the undefeated marvel, I just don’t see it as an easy night. Cotto’s got the right mentality, experience, and technique to catch and counter Mayweather on a consistent basis. I see Mayweather getting rocked a few times, and hey, that’s always fun isn’t it?

Mayweather has difficulty with boxers (and Cotto is boxing more these days than he ever did) and Cotto has only been defeated by offensive-minded fighters. ‘Nuff said.

Regarding Ortiz, I think the kid caught Mayweather with one or two good shots that backed the veteran to the ropes in the fourth round, but it seemed to me that Floyd was in control the whole time (whether his punches were hurting Vic or not). If Mayweather wasn’t in control then why was Ortiz stressing out? Why did he have a meltdown the moment it appeared like he had Mayweather? The bottom line is that Ortiz was not mature or experienced enough to deal with the opportunity in front of him.

That won’t be the case with Cotto.

 

 

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