Whats going on Dougie? So I can’t help but put all my boxing expertise on the line and predict how the future mega bouts will go down. First Mayweather vs Cotto. I see this fight being competitive and kind of a chess match. Cotto will want this victory badly it would greatly enhance his career and make him a bigger legend in Puerto Rico then he already is. But like always Mayweather’s jabs and straight right hands will start landing like crazy by the 7th round. I say Mayweather by UD in a competitive and exciting bout. Now Pacquiao vs Bradley. I have a much harder time with because maybe Pacquiao had a bad night with Marquez. Maybe Marquez just knows Pacquiao so well that he can predict what Pacquiao’s next move will be which would explain why he was landing all those punches in their last fight? Maybe Pacquiao is too distracted by his political affairs? But maybe Pacquiao the destroyer will come out and mop the floor with Bradley… It’s hard to say but me personally I smell an upset and I believe Bradley will win a very close UD that might put Pacquiao into retirement. How do you see the mega bouts going down?
Other than that I’m actually excited about Wlad Klitschko’s fight this weekend. He should be considered one of the greats. I don’t care what anybody says. He is an awesome fighter but in order to appreciate his fights you have to appreciate the art of boxing. It’s great to see brawlers duke it out but essentially boxing is a chess match and Wladimir is a boxer. Yes Wladdy can be a bit boring but I enjoy watching him wear down his opponents and finish them off. What about you Dougie, do you recognize Wladdy as being one of the greats? You probably have already answered this question I just never read the column. Any hoo have a good one Dougie!! – Roland, Tampa
I’m not really that interested in Klitshcko’s RING title defense against Jean-Marc Mormeck, but I do recognize the 35-year-old champ’s considerable technique, athleticism and dominance in his division. I’m also impressed with his ability to rebound from three stoppage losses during his career.
Is he an all-time great? I don’t think so. He doesn’t make my top 10 all-time heavyweights, and he probably gets left out of my top 15, but I believe he’s a first-ballot hall of famer (likewise for Vitali, who arguably has a better resume since his only losses are technical stoppages – that he was winning – against a hall of famer in Lennox Lewis and a good titleholder in Chris Byrd).
Regarding your mega-bout predictions: I agree with your take on Mayweather-Cotto (although I won’t faint from shock if the Puerto Rican star pulls off the upset). I like Pacquiao in the Bradley fight (although I believe the undefeated Southern Californian is a dangerous fight for the Filipino legend).
I think JMM is an expert in fighting the Pac-Monster, 24 rounds and three training camps, and being the tough, boxing astute S.O.B. that he is, definitely enabled him to once again give the heavy odds favorite fits. And yes, I do believe that Pacquiao had distractions going into that fight, but it was “personal” affairs, not political affairs if you catch my drift. If he repents his mortal sins like the good Catholic he is, gets his mind right and has a good training camp, I believe he’ll be a little bit too much for Timmy and score a late TKO in a decent fight.
WHO’S TOUGHER, FLOYD OR MANNY?
Hey Doug…. quick (but likely not easy) question for you. Who do you think is tougher, Floyd or Manny? Not better, or stronger, or best defensively, or most athletic. Just straight up tougher. Who’s more mentally tough? Who is physically tougher? Who is better equipped to withstand tough times in the ring? To handle a strong onslaught from another elite fighter?
The question popped to mind thinking about the upcoming fights, in particular the Floyd-Cotto fight. I got to thinking about Cotto vs. Manny, and while Manny performed fantastically, I also recall Cotto touching him and damaging him like nobody had before. Didn’t he even seriously mess up Manny’s ear?
And that made me start to ponder Floyd’s ability to withstand Cotto’s heavy, damaging hands. For sure his defence is better than Manny’s so it can’t be a one-for-one comparison. But we saw how Manny responded to being touched and damaged worse than ever before in his career – he sucked it up and ended up dominating through it. If Cotto can put some hurt on Floyd similar to what he did to Manny, that will likely rank as the most pain Floyd’s felt in the ring. I wonder how he’ll handle it? Will he show the same toughness? Thanks Doug…. love your stuff….. – Corban, Toronto
I think Mayweather’s “toughness” – like his punching power and physical strength – is underrated. I have no doubt that he’s a tough customer. If he wasn’t he would have quit against Jose Luis Castillo in their first bout and he would have wilted under Jesus Chavez’s relentless assault during their spirited 130-pound title bout.
I believe Mayweather and Pacquiao are of equal toughness. I think Floyd is mentally tougher than Manny. He keeps his composure better than Pacquiao does during rough spots in a fight. If Manny gets rocked, he feels the need to get macho and attack back. If he gets cut, he’s taken out of his game for a round or two. Floyd always keeps his cool.
However, I think Pacquiao is more durable, physically speaking. Like you noted, he can absorb some significant damage and still put an evil beating on his opponent. He proved it against Cotto and Margarito, who landed some nasty body shots.
I don’t see Mayweather or Pacquiao getting beat up or overwhelmed by any opponent other than each other.
I do not blame Golden Boy, they’re doing what any promoter should – maximizing return and minimizing risk.
If only Mitchell were fighting Tim Witherspoon, who was my favourite heavyweight as a teenager and a criminal waste of talent. Regards. — Dave Graham
Hey, “Terrible” Timmy may not have been the most dedicated heavyweight, but he got a lot out of his natural ability. The former two-time titleholder would have annihilated Mitchell and most of the top big men of this era. Only the K-brothers would have given him a fight and my money would have been on ‘Spoon (who gave the great Larry Holmes hell in his only 16th pro bout).
I think Chazz is a good opponent for Mitchell at this stage of the up-and-comer’s career. Witherspoon, who has more than 30 bouts, has only lost to Tony Thompson and Chris Arreola. Mitchell looked very good blasting out Timur Ibragimov, but he’s not as seasoned or technically sound as Thompson, nor is he the offensive force that Arreola was when Chazz fought the Southern California slugger.
Witherspoon has nice technique and an amateur background to pull from that Mitchell lacks. They might make for a competitive bout. And I think they will help sell tickets along with the main event (the Bernard Hopkins-Chad Dawson rematch) of the card, which takes place in Atlantic City. Mitchell is from Maryland and Witherspoon is a Philly native who lives in New Jersey.
MAYBE THE HEAVYWEIGHTS DON’T SUCK
What’s happening Doug?
Within the past two weeks we’ve actually been having heavyweight boxers fight each other hard right until the final bell. Right after I mercilessly rip the big guys for being a bunch of sluggish lazy-ass turds. And now they’re the ones supplying some real serious action. What kind of square-shaped bizarro world have we woken up to?
When I first heard of Klitschko-Chisora my initial reaction was ho frigging hum. Povetkin-Huck? Who gives a f__k!? Or so I first thought. I now stand corrected. Let’s start with Chisora. He withstood Vitali’s grinding right-hands and kept fighting right until the finish. No waltzing. No running or hugging for survival or anything like that. Sure there was no way he was ever going to beat Vitali unless the Big V lost the use of both hands. But I might just give him a puncher’s chance against Wladimir.
And now onto Povetkin-Huck. Those two bruisers really fought the s__t out of each other like no two big men have since David Tua-Ike Ibeabuchi. Huck proved to be just as strong as Povetkin as well as the harder puncher. Not bad for a guy who was once knocked out by Steve Cunningham. As for Povetkin, he’s as tough and willing as they come (even if he refuses to challenge Wladimir for some strange reason). The big Ruskie’s main short-comings seem to be his lack of defence and average punching power. Nevertheless, a fight between him and Dereck Chisora would be one heck of a brawl. (In or out of the ring.) Mr. Huck versus Tomasz Adamec could be real barn-burner as well. And if Chris Arreola can finally work all those Big Macs and donuts off his midsection, we can certainly throw him into the mix. As I mentioned before, lack of desire as opposed to lack of talent has been the big problem and it will take more than a couple of fights to fix that. But if the contenders I mentioned along with several up-comers keep fighting each other more regularly and with the same grit we saw in the Povetkin-Huck fight, that will be a big step right there.
Now onto other things:
Alexander-Maidana. I figured Alexander would win by decision. I didn’t think he’ll completely dominate Maidana the way he did. Is Dev really that much stronger as a full-fledged welter or are straight-ahead brawlers like Maidana tailor-made for him? Remember how Dev completely took apart Juan Urango who like Maidana was a hard-puncher but one dimensional. Against more skilled fighters like Tim Bradley and Walter Matthysse, Dev couldn’t do as much. So how will he do against guys like Victor Ortiz or Andre Berto, full-fledged welters who crack as hard or maybe even harder than Maidana but are clearly more skilled. That would really be interesting to find out. Your thoughts?
Pacman and Butthead. So Sponge Bob (Square-ass) Arum thinks that the upcoming Pacquiao-Bradley (Butthead) bout will have no problems selling tickets, eh? Well DUHHH!! This is frigging Manny Pacquiao we’re talking about. Raving fans will trample the ticket stands and overrun the whole damn area just to watch Manny beat up a rubber chicken. Quite the visionary you are there, Bob.
The British Charm. First they literally invented soccer-hooliganism. Then these same Brits let the bottles and piss-cups fly whenever their guy loses in boxing (Hagler-Minter). And more recently they boo the American national anthem (Mayweather-Hatton) and now they’re spitting in the faces of their opponents’ family members and brawling it out like intoxicated thugs that should be featured on the Jerry Springer Show. Yeah, nice to know that those anger-management sessions in Britain are really paying off. Those same sessions should do wonders for Chisora. And maybe for the Mayweather clan as well.
Well that’s my wrap-up for this week Mr. D. Have a good one! – Todd The Terminator
Poor behavior isn’t limited to British fighters. Adrien Broner almost started a couple full-scale brawls in St. Louis last weekend. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: Fighters need to check themselves before they wreck our sport, because sooner or later one of these out-of-the-ring melees is going to result in an innocent bystander getter seriously hurt. Boxing’s image sucks as it is, the sport doesn’t need to add fuel to the disrespect and disgust that the general public already holds toward it.
Pacquiao-Bradley probably will sell well; I’m not mad at Arum for that. I’ll be happy for Bradley and anyone who tuned into the event (provided the fight delivers).
I’ve only seen him (live) in one welterweight bout, but I do believe that Alexander is physically stronger at 147 pounds than he was at junior welterweight. I also think he hits harder and has better stamina. However, I agree that he’ll still have trouble against more versatile boxers (like Bradley) and good technicians (such as Matthysse). Having said that, I don’t think Berto and Ortiz are as polished as Bradley and Matthysse and I believe Alexander can compete with either welterweight standout.
Povetkin and Huck did indeed put it down for 12 rounds. I don’t think the fight was as great as some folks who tweeted during the live broadcast made it out to be but it was a damn good 12-round bout. I definitely think there have been heavyweight bouts with comparable action to Povetkin-Huck since the Tua-Ibeabuchi match (Lamon Brewster’s bouts against Lujan Krasniqi and Sergei Liakhovich come to mind), but it’s a good sign that the big boys are going at it the way fighters in the lighter-weight classes normally do.
I’ve said this many times and I’m happy to repeat it: the heavyweight division can be entertaining if the right fights are made.
What’s good? Just wanna talk about some upcoming fights. If Wladimir Klitschko loses this weekend will it ruin his legacy? Whether you like him or not he is a top 25 all time in heavyweight. Would a loss totally erase what he has done the last 7 yrs? He isn’t considered a wasted or a past it fighter so would losing to this guy knock him out the top 25?
Also with JuanMa Lopez having a crossroads fight in 2 weeks, does a loss ruin his star power? Fighters constantly lose to the same fighter twice and still maintain star power (Mosley, De La Hoya, Hopkins, etc). Now with a win, will Bob pull the trigger on a June fight at MSG with Mickey Garcia then in Nov against Wilfredo Vasquez Jr.?
If Erik Morales wins will this set up the big cowboy stadium showdown with JM Marquez? That would be the only big name who could be put on a PPV with Marquez in July. I personally feel Danny Garcia will lose a close and questionable decision.
Lastly, what do you think of some future matchups Demetrius Andrade vs Denis Douglin, Jesse Vargas vs Kendall Holt/Tim Coleman winner, Devon Alexander vs Amir Khan @ 145,Victor Ortiz vs Robert Guerrero, Paul Williams vs Jermain Taylor @160, and Kelly Pavlik vs Ricardo Mayorga. Peace and keep it up. – James
What do I think of these matchups? Demetrius Andrade vs Denis Douglin (Not much). Jesse Vargas vs Kendall Holt/Tim Coleman winner (Won’t happen unless Holt or Coleman go to 147 pounds). Devon Alexander vs Amir Khan @ 145 (Interesting matchup with a lot of speed on display – it could happen and I slightly favor Khan if it does). Victor Ortiz vs Robert Guerrero (The Ghost as to beat Selcuk Aydin before this fight could happen, and I think Aydin will be a tough opponent). Paul Williams vs Jermain Taylor @160 (Never happen, Al Haymon doesn’t put his fighters in with each other. If they did fight, I like Taylor cuz of his size and power). Kelly Pavlik vs Ricardo Mayorga (What the hell made you think of this matchup? Mayorga has no business fighting at 160 pounds and I’m not sure that Pavlik can get down to that weight. I’d go with the “other” Ghost if that fight was made – and I hope it isn’t. Stop giving Bob and Don f__ked-up ideas).
I slightly favor El Terrible to best Garcia, but I don’t think he’ll ever get Marquez in the ring. Too bad if that turns out to be the case. I want to see that fight. Still, there are good fights that can be made with Morales, such as a showdown with the Humberto Soto-Matthysse winner and a rematch with Maidana.
Losing to Lopez will hurt his star power in the eyes of general fans and U.S. network execs, but not Puerto Rican fans. As long as he challenges himself and puts on good fights, I believe he’ll sell tickets in Puerto Rico, New York City and Atlantic City. If he beats Salido, I think Arum will pull the trigger and make those fights with Garcia and Vazquez Jr.
I think Klitschko has done enough to merit hall of fame induction. Losing to Mormeck won’t change that.
He probably is a top 25 heavyweight (I haven’t tried to put together an all-time heavyweight list beyond 15 fighters, but my guess is that Wladdy fits in somewhere between 16-25). Again, a loss tomorrow won’t push him back too far. It won’t erase winning every heavyweight belt (except for the WBC strap Big Bro holds), making countless title defenses, and beating top-10 heavyweights such as Byrd (twice), Ruslan Chagaev, Sultan Ibragimov, Sam Peter (twice), Brewster, David Haye, Eddie Chambers and Jameel McCline. A loss won’t take away the Olympic gold medal he won in 1996, either.
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