Doug Fischer

Dougie’s Friday mailbag

BOXER VS. BRAWLER

How you doing Douglas.

Looking back at last weekend all I have to say is that Adrien Broner’s a real f__king pile of bat-barf and when he finally gets his f__king ass kicked it can’t come soon enough. And trust me, I’ll be watching it and cheering on whoever has the honour of wiping out this f__king human shit-stain. Yo Adrien!! You suck ass!! Not just Floyd’s. You suck ass, period!

Moving on to this weekend I think that this will be one hell of an intense boxer-brawler fight between the highly-skilled Robert Guerrero and the bigger, stronger Selcuk Aydin. I’m hoping that The Ghost takes it. I think that his skills, combinations and under-rated toughness should enable him to outscore the Turkish brawler. But Aydin’s such a tough, hard-punching mother-f__ker. And I think he would have pounded the living s__t out of Andre Berto and maybe Victor Ortiz as well if any of those guys didn’t avoid him, which shows us what kind of balls Guerrero has. Now he’s truly a guy to root for. And believe me, I’m rooting for him but beating this bastard Aydin’s not going to be easy. Nevertheless, go kick his f__king ass Robbie! – Dave W.

Tell us how you really f__king feel, Dave.

I agree that Guerrero is a guy worth rooting for and that the former featherweight and junior lightweight titleholder has his work cut out for him tomorrow night. Guerrero’s not just facing an undefeated welterweight contender in his first bout over 140 pounds. He’s fighting strong and rugged puncher who had an extensive amateur career and is in his prime.

Guerrero is also coming off 15 months of inactivity and a shoulder injury.

Like you, I recognize Guerrero’s skills, toughness and experience. On a pound-for-pound level he outclasses Aydin, but I have a hard time predicting what’s going to happen in this fight because I don’t know how well he’ll carry 147 pounds or how much the layoff will affect his timing and reflexes.

And, of course, the main question I have is how well Guerrero can take a punch from a strong, natural welterweight. The Ghost has excellent defense (hence the nickname) and when he’s been clocked flush in the past, he’s always taken it well, but most of his opposition has been at sub-lightweight.

I thought Guerrero looked fantastic in his last fight, a unanimous decision over Michael Katsidis last April. He didn’t just outclass the always-game Aussie, he punished him. However, Katsidis has his moments in that fight. He buzzed Guerrero a few times and almost turned the tide in the middle-to-late rounds with a concentrated body attack. He was getting Guerrero (in the eighth round, if memory serves me) and I thought The Ghost caught a break from referee Russell Mora, who thought Katsidis was straying low and continually inserted himself between the two.

It makes me wonder what will happen if Aydin can get inside and go to work on Guerrero’s guts like that. However, from what I’ve seen Aydin doesn’t concentrate on the body the way Katsidis did that night, and he certainly doesn’t throw as many punches.

My pick is Guerrero by close but unanimous decision. I think his jab, accurate straight lefts, combination punching and angles when in close will be the difference in what I hope will be a good fight. I’ll be tuning in to Showtime with interest for this one.  

Regarding your thoughts on Broner, it looks like he’s made yet another diehard fan – not the adoring kind, but the type that will pay to see him get his Twinkie-eating butt kicked.

JACKASS: THE NEW GENERATION

Hey Doug!

Big question for you and all the readers. Who are the biggest a__holes in boxing, the guys fans would love to see sprawled out on the matt blankly staring at stars and tweety-birds? If you answered Adrien Broner five times then you really nailed it right on the head. Nevermind what happened on Saturday. Broner has all the class and personality of a warthog’s arse-hole. And yet he has a gal and four kids. Someone actually breeds with this s__t bag?! Shocking. And on top of that he has the HBO crew and GBP members plunging their lips through his ass up and down. Open Broner’s ass. Insert HBO. Turn up to maximum suckage. Hey it’s where the big bucks are now. Broner may be a piece of s__t but a worthless piece of s__t? Definitely not. Sometimes being a total jackass sells. Especially if it’s Broner and you want to see him get scraped off the canvas with a shovel and dumped in the trash. Add to the fact that Broner is in all fairness, an explosive fighter who knows how to close the show and you have a very marketable moron whose bank account is going to really to sky-rocket.

So where does Mr. “Fake Money” go from here. As mentioned, there’s no way this guy who walks around as a full-fledged welterweight is going to stay as a lightweight for long anyways. Anywhere from 140-147? Now you’re talking! Those weight-classes are filled with some really kick-ass world-beaters who might indeed kick Broner’s ass and therefore not live with the embarrassment of losing to a guy named “Adrien.” Any of you willing to pay to watch a monster like Lucas Matthysse explode some right-hand bombs inside Broner’s mighty mouth?

If you answered “no” you’re either full of it or you’re not a true fight fan. How about everyone’s favourite Mayweather clone going up against Josesito Lopez who fights like a cornered pit-bull? Sign me up! But know what would really be a wild, crazy fight. Broner vs Brandon Rios. Talk about a real hot-air collision! F-bombs and fists will be flying everywhere. And that would be before they even got a chance to sign the dotted line. And for all we know Broner might beat those guys but they’re all PPV worthy fights.

Bottom line: As much as we hate Broner’s antics he turns heads and puts asses in the seats. Would he be getting this much publicity if he was Mr. Straight-Arrow and took after Floyd Patterson instead of Floyd Mayweather? Probably not. Hey, Mike Tyson was at one point the biggest s__tbag in boxing who did worse s__t in and out of the ring than Broner is doing now. That didn’t stop fans from trampling the ticket stands just to watch Tyson beat up on pathetic no-hopers like Peter McNeely. And look how much Floyd’s PPV sales have been raking in. And yet, how many true fans does Floyd have? Including himself and Broner, two. Like it or not it’s now Broner’s turn. HBO’s newest and biggest jackass.

OK Dougie. Got to fly. Again, cheers! – Todd The Terminator

Thanks for sharing, Todd. As usual you make a lot of good points in um, very colorful fashion. (I’m glad I don’t let my 8-year-old daughter read the mailbag. Some of you goons are potty mouths. Vulgar motherf__kers!)

You’re right about Broner, though. The young man’s got the skills to pay the bills and the polarizing personality to blow up into a crossover star. Can we really blame GBP or HBO for smooching his shinny black butt?

I don’t care at all for the crap he pulled with poor Vicente Escobedo last weekend, but for the most part I like Broner and I look forward to watching him fight – provided he’s in with a credible, worthy opponent.

The top five fighters I want to see Broner share the ring with are as follows: Rios (at 140 pounds), Matthysse (140), Lopez (140), Antonio DeMarco (135) and Hank Lundy (135) – provided Tony beats John Molina on Sept. 8 and Hammerin’ Hank beats Ray Beltran tonight.

YURIORKIS GAMBOA VS. ADRIEN BRONER

Who wins? – Joseph G.

I think it’s an easy fight for Broner. Gamby bounces in and out with his chinny chin exposed and his gloves often down by his waist. As soon as Broner times Gamboa as the Cuban dwarf hops in the fight will be over.

WARD VS. DAWSON, RING TITLES

Hey Doug,

I’m not a regular reader of yours, but I do read your mailbag and other work on occasion.

I’ve tried getting an answer to my question from other sources (including a rotund, bearded writer from another boxing website who shall remain nameless), but so far, no luck.

What I’m wondering, is whether Andre Ward’s and Chad Dawson’s RING title belts BOTH will go to the winner of their fight September 8th in Oakland?

I know that they are contesting the fight at 168 lbs., and I’m sure Ward’s will be on the line. But is Dawson’s RING belt also on the line, even though they’re fighting below the light heavyweight limit? If so, is this the first fight in history where TWO Ring titles will be awarded to the winner?

I know Joe Calzaghe held the RING super middleweight belt when he fought and beat Bernard Hopkins for his light heavyweight belt over four years ago, and became the first to hold two belts simultaneously, but isn’t this the first fight where two RING belts are at stake?

Thanks for your help, if you answer! – Gary Burton, Beaverton, OR

Only one RING title will be up for grabs on Sept. 8, Ward’s super middleweight belt. If Ward beats Dawson he will not win THE RING’s light heavyweight title; he will have defended his 168-pound belts (RING, WBC and WBA) against the light heavyweight champ who dropped down to the super middleweight division.

If Dawson beats Ward he will add THE RING’s super middleweight title to his 175-pound belt and he will have a short period of time to decide which title he wants to hold on to at which point the other RING belt will be declared vacant.

If Ward wants to win THE RING’s light heavyweight title he’ll have to venture above 168 pounds to fight for it.

EL TERRIBLE

Doug,

After Danny Garcia’s whooping of Amir Khan I went back and rewatched Garcia’s win over Erik Morales. My question is, can you name any fighters tougher than Morales DURING the stretch of his career? I submit that in my time watching boxing (last 10-12 years) there has not been a badder SOB. He does this great feint uppercut overhand right combo that is a thing of beauty and even when he’s getting rocked by stronger guys you just never sense him panicking. Thank You. – Byron, Columbia, Mo.

Thanks for emailing Bryan. It’s always good to hear from Missouri-based fans, especially those from the fine college town of Columbia. Have I ever mentioned that I lost my virginity in Columbia? (I hope that last thought wasn’t too random or weird. It’s late and I’m listening to Music Choice on U-Verse. I’ve got it on the “Classic Alternative” channel and it’s playing Simple Minds’ “Alive and Kicking,” which got me thinking about the mid-1980s.)

Anyway, let’s talk about the 2000s and El Terrible. I had the honor of witnessing some incredibly tough and determined warriors fight through unbearable pain and punishment through the past decade, some received glory for their guts (Arturo Gatti, Diego Corrales, Micky Ward) and some did not (Chris Byrd, James Toney), but I can’t think of anyone who engaged in as many grueling world-class 12-round battles as Morales.

His chin and body wasn’t as durable as that of Juan Manuel Marquez and he wasn’t as talented as his hated rival Marco Antonio Barrera, but I think he edges his Mexican peers in terms of sheer pride (which is saying something).

Because of this still-fierce pride I can understand why he wants another crack at Garcia, who now holds THE RING and WBA 140-pound belt along with the green WBC strap he covets so much, but you and I know that El Terrible already holds the title that counts the most – that of Undisputed Bad S.O.B.

BRONER-MAYWEATHER COMPARISON

Dougie, interested in your take on a few things and hopefully this will reach the mailbag, as I have failed to do so with my last six or seven attempts.

Considering how much Broner wants to be Floyd I want your opinion on Broner vs Mayweather at 22 years of age.

Who had the better:

1) Opposition at that point in their careers

2) Who had better footwork/defense?

3) Who was faster?

4) Ring IQ?

5) And lastly, who would you take in a matchup at 130 (or 130 vs 133.5, since we know AB doesn’t care about making weight).

Interested in your take.  – Mike

Sorry for missing your last six or seven emails to the mailbag, Mike. Thanks for keeping at it without getting discouraged or pissed off.

Anyway, as talented and precocious as Broner is, he doesn’t come close to matching the 21- and 22-year-old Mayweather’s accomplishments and ring mastery.

1) Level of opposition definitely goes to Floyd. He defeated the late Genaro Hernandez (a long-reigning two-time 130-pound titleholder who was 38-1-1 at the time) and Angel Manfredy (a bona-fide top-five contender who was unbeaten in 24 bouts – which included victories over Arturo Gatti, Jorge Paez, Calvin Grove and John Brown – going into their fight) before the age of 22. Mayweather was THE RING’s Fighter of the Year in 1998.

2) Mayweather had the superior footwork (he was more mobile) and the better defense (which was slicker and more fluid). Hernandez, a skilled veteran known for his craft and ring smarts, couldn’t put hands on Mayweather. Daniel Ponce de Leon, a raw veteran known for being slow and ponderous, almost beat Broner (despite being naturally smaller). ‘Nuff said.

3) They have comparable speed and reflexes.

4) There’s no comparing their ring smarts at this point because apart from De Leon and Fernando Quintero (who he fought when he was a teenager), Broner’s size and athleticism has been enough to overwhelm his opponents. We haven’t seen him have to rely on guile and savvy yet.

5) I gotta go with Pretty Boy Floyd. I don’t think he would have had an easy time with a boxer as big and talented as Broner but I think he would ultimately have an answer for The Problem.

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